Recording of Sam Maizel’s Discussion of Distressed Hospitals
A noted expert in the restructuring of health care business debts, both in and out of court, Sam Maizel treated Seton Hall to a one hour crash course on the fiscal crisis encountered by many of America’s hospitals. The significant financial hurdles that the hospital industry is facing has made the bankruptcy process that many hospitals encounter one of the fastest growing fields in health law.
Mr. Maizel has represented the federal government as a trial attorney in the U.S. Department of Justice’s Commercial Litigation Branch. He also served in the JAG Corps in Operation Desert Shield and Desert Storm after serving in the 101st Airborne Division and the 3rd US Infantry Regiment. Mr. Maizel now practices in Los Angeles for Pachulski Stang Ziehl & Jones LLP.
You can download Mr. Maizel’s talk here, or alternatively, you can stream it to your browser by clicking “Play” below:
Will Conflicts of Interest Sabotage Health Reform?
Filed under: Advertising & Lobbying, Hospital Finances, Proposed Legislation

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With health care reform in full gear, one crucial question is that of prioritization. Where should we focus our efforts? Who needs greater treatment, and what type of care is missing from the everyday lives of everyday Americans? Unfortunately, the politicians crafting the legislation may be swayed–not surprisingly–by stakeholders and lobbyists who are concerned with how reform will affect their bottom line. Interestingly, it is not just private insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies that are influencing the legislation.
A recent New York Times piece underscores how the emerging landscape of physician-owned hospitals is helping to shape congressional legislation.
The Times article states that one of the largest sources of campaign contributions for the Senate Democrats Campaign Committee is from the Doctors Hospital at Renaissance for a not-so-paltry sum of $500,000. Ironically, the event that raised the sum was at the home of Alonzo Cantu, a real estate developer in–you guessed it–McAllen Texas. Another event at Cantu’s house “brought in at least $800,000 for the committee’s House counterpart, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.”
McAllen became (in)famous as the town depicted by Atul Gawande in his now oft-cited piece exposing the framework of incentives available to providers and hospitals to perform a greater number of tests and procedures in order to increase their bottom line, even when the greater volume of tests and procedures does not necessarily correspond to an increase in quality of care. Health Reform Watch has discussed the “cost conundrum” before. Nevertheless, the incessant media and blog coverage of our inefficient system does not seem to have dissuaded those with a stake in that inefficient system from advocating for the status quo. As the Times points out that:
…like others here, he [Mr. Cantu] is not pleased about the president’s depiction of health care in McAllen.
“What’s so upsetting,” he said, “is that to make his case he threw McAllen under the bus.”
One might ask–given Gawande’s seemingly accurate portrayal of the overly-entrepreneurial nature of McAllen’s health care system–why we shouldn’t throw McAllen under the bus, especially when we can put a face on a problem undermining our system? Mr. Cantu and other Doctors Hospital officials are said to have offered the following argument for why Doctors Hospital and other physician-owned hospitals were beneficial and shouldn’t be singled out:
They have argued they are being unfairly grouped with boutique specialty hospitals that do not have emergency departments and that cater to privately insured patients. Eighty-eight percent of Doctors Hospital patients are either on public insurance or uninsured, 750 babies are delivered there a month, and no one is turned away because of inability to pay, they said.
Physician ownership, they added, has meant major investments in the latest equipment and good staffing ratios for nurses. Appealing to local pride, the hospital markets itself as the first in the area to offer services like PET scans, robotic surgery and breast imaging, which once required trips to Houston or San Antonio.
It is perhaps important to remember, as the McAllen boys attempt to mitigate the damages of the Gawande article, just what Gawande found. As we wrote prior:
Gawande writes that McAllen “is one of the most expensive health-care markets in the country. Only Miami-which has much higher labor and living costs-spends more per person on health care. In 2006, Medicare spent fifteen thousand dollars per enrollee here, almost twice the national average. The income per capita is twelve thousand dollars. In other words, Medicare spends three thousand dollars more per person here than the average person earns.”
El Paso, Texas, similarly situated, spends significantly less– half as much.
Might I suggest that there is little consolation in the fact that the largesse found in McAllen is largely funded through “public insurance,” or that there are “boutique hospitals” which charge even more?
In addition, “Local pride” aside, the real question is whether McAllen needs a PET scan facility or robotic surgery. Importantly, Texas is not a Certificate of Need (C.O.N.) law state. Therefore “local pride” (i.e. desire of a local, often private, facility) may often trump the actual “need” of the community. This idea is reinforced when taking into account that a PET scanner may have an annual operational cost of over $1 million, in addition to the upfront construction costs that can also venture into the millions. Altruism aside for the moment (or perhaps, it seems, longer), the investors in those machines will seek to recoup their cost plus profit. To do so, they simply must use that machine.
Thus, as it stands, the allocation of expensive high-tech machinery in physician-owned hospitals is based upon the government subsidized decision of private investors regarding the liklihood of turning a profit (for the subsidies, think “depreciation” and “expensing” for business equipment; think “public insurance” for billables). Perhaps we should not be quite so surprised when they then comport themselves in a way which ensures such a profit. But, it certainly may be argued that with our health care system in its precarious state, without a showing of actual need, the trip to Houston or San Antonio for very advanced high-tech procedures is a price we must be willing to pay and that the allocation of medical resources (and government subsidies for such) should be based on public need and not private profit.
In addition, given the overlap between physician-owned hospitals and single specialty hospitals, as Professor Frank Pasquale points out, these single specialty hospitals may siphon scarce health resources and undercut the care that community hospitals provide.
In a previous post, I discussed comparing a health care system to a pyramid, the foundation of the pyramid requiring a solid base of primary, preventive, and wellness care, that tapers to the top of the pyramid where we find the specialists utilizing, for example, advanced equipment and procedures like robotic surgery. However, a stable foundation for the pyramid is necessary, and the favoritism described above may stymie actual reform–reform that will provide Americans with the basics that they need at an affordable price.
Democrats are surely not the only ones to blame, and money has flowed to Republicans as well. As we discussed in an earlier post, a Common Cause report finds that $1.4 million dollars per day is being spent by healthcare interests lobbying Congress this year. From the perspective of the physician-owned hospitals and private health insurance companies, donating to both sides of the aisle makes sense; it ensures that both political parties have a financial stake in preventing legislation that would limit physician-owned hospitals from being subject to greater restrictions (like CON laws), or tightly regulating insurer practices. Though there are some restrictions governing physician-owned facilities in the House bill, these have been watered down, and will now allow facilities like Doctors Hospital to maintain their current structure, and even expand in certain future circumstances. As the Times reports:
The Senate Finance Committee has yet to release its final draft, but bills passed by two House committees would prevent the opening of new physician-owned hospitals by disqualifying them from receiving Medicare reimbursements. Existing facilities like Doctors Hospital would be grandfathered in.
One key provision would limit a hospital’s ownership by doctors to the level in place at the time of enactment. That is a change from previous language in House bills to restrict physician ownership to 40 percent. It would have forced Doctors Hospital, where physicians have an 82-percent stake, to be sold or required some of its owners to divest.
The future disallowance by Congress of Medicare funding for procedures performed at physician-owned hospitals is a tacit acknowledgment that the structure is one in which conflicts of interest abound; that he who owns a machine and will profit from its use is apt to refer patients for its use–regardless of actual need. It is the acknowledgment that the foxes are essentially guarding the henhouse–and that hens cost money. The exception made for Doctors Hospital and others of its ilk, however, considering the large campaign contributions, gives rise to other questions about conflicts of interest.
The problem is not simply the amount of money that is being funneled to Congress by the health care industry. The more pertinent issue at this point is: Read more



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